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This bill, if passed, will certainly endanger the livelihoods of thousands of our hard-working citizens, who will be forced to support a program that does not give them any appreciable benefit --
Mr. Ries Ackermann, you have the floor.
I'm not sure where the figures you have just heard come from -- perhaps from certain parts of the body which we shall not speak of in a respectable chamber environment such as this -- respectable environment --
Mr. Ackermann, you have the floor. Five minutes to speak, please.
I will not stand for the wanton destruction of wealth in our economy. It is our repson responsibility to ensure that every dollar fairly earned remains in the hands of those who have earned it. This proposal, however, does no such thing, as its opponents would have you believe. Far from it. It would promote --
Please don't patronize your fellow legislators -- indeed, the people of this nation -- by oversimplifying the argument, sir. This is not a I contend that your assertions about the nature of this bill are misguided at best, and a deliberate attempt at misinformation at worst. Please, Mr. Hayden, let the facts speak for themselves, and do not belittle our intelligence in such a fashion.
Mr. Ackermann, you have the floor. Mr. Ackermann?
Introducing the Right Honorable Carol Trudeau --
Mr. Ackermann, five minutes to speak.
If I may be so bold to suggest it, you are both wrong. This exchange -- really, just a back-and-forth where both sides are dug in as fully as they can be -- no, this is not what we are here for. Let me point out sve several flaws in the reasoning I've heard from the two of you. First, Mr. Sve Stevens, I cannot agree with your statement that government subsidies will invariably destabilize a market. Used responsibly --
I'll take my lectures on responsibility from someone who doesn't represent a district with a $50 million budget shortfall for the current fiscal year --
Used responsibly, Mr. Stevens, they can be an effective way to encourage forward-looking practices that only need surmount a financial obstacle. We can all agree that this is something that needs to be done within the next decade if we are to avoid incurin incurring a much larger cost further down the line -- one that we may not be able to pay at that point --
I refer to my previous statement.
Now, Mr. Ackermann -- to your argument that --
You have the floor. Five minutes to speak. Introducing the Honor Right --
To your argument, Mr. Ackermann, that you have only five minutes to speak. We know that this is not a permanent plan. It will be revisited on a regular basis to ensure that the proposal law does not hurt our consituents through neglect of our duties as members of this chamber. Should we fail to do so, then we will simply let it languish and die. As for your
Appreciable benefit? If we do allow this to languish and die --
Mr. Ackermann, introducing the Right Honorable Carol Trudeau -- let the facts speak for themselves, Mr. Hayden --
Five minutes to speak. We will now table a motion to close. Five minutes to speak -- this is not what we are here for. Objection.
I am not opposing this bill on simple partisan grounds -- let me reassure my comrades across the aisle that I would never do such a thing. To engage in such sophistry would be an insult to the refined political discourse that we have come to expect from the highest legislative body in the country --
We now open consideration of Resolution 1294. First to speak will be -- first to speak, you have five minutes. Mr. Ackermann?
I refer to page 16 sixteen of this bill, which can be an effective way to encourage forward-looking practices that need only surmount -- yes, that need only surmount a financial obstacle. Money is a secondary concern when we are talking about something that will certainly endanger the livelihoods of thousands of our hard-working citizens, is it not?
We will now have a role roll call of those present. Ackermann, David Gary II. Bell, Frank Spooner. Bond, Jennifer Stacy -- roll call, with five minutes to speak. Stevens, Jacob Mark. Tao, Minghe Theodore. Trudeau, Carol Lasseter. Respectable environment. Zan Zheren, Hart. All present and accounted for.
Motion to adjourn sustained.